If MY to construct a half-bridge,how?
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I tell u, if we go to war over a stupid causeway, we'd get laughed at by history students of the future.
As highlighted, to build a new bridge requires consent from both parties. MY cannot simply build a bridge crooked bridge as suggested. The causeway links our doorsteps together. Unless MY offer to fully undertake the cost of the building, maybe can consider consenting.
Even so, we still retain the right to say no. I rather they spend some money expanding their roads in JB leading to the causeway.... whole day jam until no tmr one. -
Haha..silly Question! If MY construct a half bridge, how?
Who in the clear mind would wanna antagonized one another and start series of political tremor which doesnt benefit bilateral side. IMO, MY is trying to test market and with some hopes that our government will give way.
Anyway fortunately, MY wasnt ruled by Dr M liao! Otherwise here comes another incessant singapore bashing haha. -
Hah, tho MY ain't ruled by Dr M anymore, he still makes like 7 out of 10 headlines.
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I have nothing but disdain and contempt for the empty words of Dr M.
Thank goodness the more rational and logical Pak Lah is now in power. -
The reason for the new bridge is too bring in more biz for the johor port... if the bridge is build..ship could bypass singapore.. go through the north side of singapore rather than the southern side...Originally posted by ah_kwang:they probably won't want to waste their precious money too... anyway what benefit does building a new bridge bring? Certainly not to increase tourism or trade activities between MY and SG.
The current causeway is too low for big ship to go through..
For malaysia..it mean biz for them...
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isnt it obvious!!
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For their port yes. But in the case of passing Singapore from the north rather than the south is not possible unless they are going to build 2 new bridges to replace both tuas bridge and the causeway.Originally posted by zheshi:The reason for the new bridge is too bring in more biz for the johor port... if the bridge is build..ship could bypass singapore.. go through the north side of singapore rather than the southern side...
The current causeway is too low for big ship to go through..
For malaysia..it mean biz for them...
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What war? I am not going to war. Mr Lee can kiss my arse. He can have his war if he wants to. I will donate my Equipment to him if he so inclines. Silly man.
Re the bridge, i can make no informed comment. This is fustrating but I trust neither the Singapore or Malaysia Govt. They each have their own agendas to pursue and i do not think it is below these politicains to lie. I am also not a student of international law. -
if MY wanted to build it on their own she would have done it long ago. she always put it like they care about our opinion actually they dont. she merely wants our money.
closing the border will only hurt them more, not us. we are MY's no 1 source of tourists revenue. johor will never agree to the closing of the border. -
close borderOriginally posted by dragg:if MY wanted to build it on their own she would have done it long ago. she always put it like they care about our opinion actually they dont. she merely wants our money.
closing the border will only hurt them more, not us. we are MY's no 1 source of tourists revenue. johor will never agree to the closing of the border.
!! . Maybe you would like to be more analytical dude!
Doesnt make sense at all. Border closure is utterly ruled out at least in ours and MYs context. what about bilateral trade and my favour shopping destination in Johor 
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Originally posted by Shotgun:Even so, we still retain the right to say no. I rather they spend some money expanding their roads in JB leading to the causeway.... whole day jam until no tmr one.
You expand the roads leading to the causeway means faster traffic towards the causeway = BIGGER JAM at the mouth of the causeway!
PTP is the other reason why MY wants to revamp their side of the bridge. They have their agenda, so do we. On our side, the show-stopped is simply a monster cost as well as no beneficial outcome for SG. -
Erhhh... I'm not a moderator nor am I trying to offend anyone, but isn't this topic in the wrong forum?
Aiyah, at this point, I seriously doubt that the present Malaysian PM will do such a silling thing. He seems a lot more moderate and has his head screwed on right. -
Geee, I never knew the bridge issue would allow ships to sail thru the causeway waters. Thats really serious. I guess we ought to start reclaiming more land northwards and narrow the waterway. Heh.
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i will never pay toll charges to use a bridge to go JB.
yes its all because of PTP and soreignity. its going to be big money if its grows.
anyway, it will not work as the channel is to small to support decent traffic for large ships. Can build many docks, but the channel width is too small. and have two sides.
if super tanker passed thru, all activities must stop. ships not like cars, cannot stop and go. a super tanker takes 5 miles to stop.
Better to just modify and strengthened present casueway with extension here and there, to allow water to flow thru. can build two more lanes.
A billion dollars is no small matter, cannot use talk to agree, must issue intentional contract from federal and johore authorities. just in case one denies liability. -
if reclaim one feet, they will say damage environment. If they reclaim, we complain they say we get bolder, dare to talk back.Originally posted by Shotgun:Geee, I never knew the bridge issue would allow ships to sail thru the causeway waters. Thats really serious. I guess we ought to start reclaiming more land northwards and narrow the waterway. Heh.
its all about PTP. do you really think its about johore people. Its federal issue. thats why johore cannot even say how much to charge singapore for water. Federal wants to make it soverignty rights as infinite time with any price they set. Thats why delay. Mahathir was asking like a few dollars, while selangor pays only 30 to 50 malaysia cents. untreated and reservoir water.
they play cornering trick, we somehow everytime escape the trapped. The only trapped that we cannot escape was the SGX clob sega. Our big mouth MAS says can go international court. ALL bullshit.
Mahathir once lost billions of bank negara money in UK pounds to george soros. soros make a billion for that moment.
He is mad whenever soros is involved. He got trapped by mr soros. even blame soros for the 1997 financial crisis. -
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Actually the ships that they want to move through are barges, not super tankers. Mainly to move some goods from one side of the causeway to the other.
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War is a bloody fight.
Both sides will suffer major casualties.
It should be considered as a very last option when there's no alternative available.
I don't understand why he likes to bash singapore -
I suspect he's not intelligent enough to think of the consequences ......Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:War is a bloody fight.
Both sides will suffer major casualties.
It should be considered as a very last option when there's no alternative available.
I don't understand why he likes to bash singapore
but sadly that only makes these people dangerous .... -
of course lah , the first to die isn't him what.Originally posted by Fatum:I suspect he's not intelligent enough to think of the consequences ......
but sadly that only makes these people dangerous ....
just like red alert sending his troops blindly -
If a war scenario happens , it will end faster then the time it will take for people to complete a red alert game
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Rmb, the equitpment they ordered havent come yetOriginally posted by SMAPLionHeart:If a war scenario happens , it will end faster then the time it will take for people to complete a red alert game
"Unable to comply, building in progress"
those who play red alert shd know -
Under the current leadership, it is not likely malaysia will want to provoke us to war. they know the consequence and they will not take the risk.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:War is a bloody fight.
Both sides will suffer major casualties.
It should be considered as a very last option when there's no alternative available.
I don't understand why he likes to bash singapore
just stand our ground and let the diplomats do their jobs. Once in a while, cancel your trip to malaysia and go to Jakarta. Still very cheap. -
they keep saying we are arrogant. it would be nice for singaporeans to avoid malaysia once in a while.
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I did my fair share. Been avoiding it since 1998.Originally posted by dragg:they keep saying we are arrogant. it would be nice for singaporeans to avoid malaysia once in a while.