Mighty Japan DF
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The provinces in middle and western china cannot be more expensive than vietnam or indonesia, whatever TIME magazine says.Originally posted by tvdog:It's cheaper, TIME magazine said so.
Those are deciding where to put your new manufacturing plant, and if costs is The deciding factor, it would be wise to check out. Its your money....
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becos the "kopi lui" is lower ? ....Originally posted by tvdog:Actually, surprise surprise, or no surprise really:
Chinese businessmen are building factories in Indochina because it is cheaper than China.
(irony irony ....)
talking to some of the chinese chaps here makes my hair stand .......
seems that everything can be brought ... high school results (good for overseas uni only ... ) ... TOFEL results ...... theses for MBAs .... driving licenses (no wonder the roads there are dangerous ...) ..... etc .....
but can't blame the chaps ... it's because ... as one of them put it to me .... "Shan1 gao1 huang2 di4 yuan3 .... " (the mountains are high and the emperor's far away ) ....
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Japan always under stated the class of ships.
They call it Supply ship. We call it mini aircraft carrier??
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
that so-called supply ship is a blatant violation of the pacifist constitution. what's the point of having rules when they have no intention of keeping to them?
Japan always under stated the class of ships.
They call it Supply ship. We call it mini aircraft carrier??
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Nobody going to be fooled by Japs little tricks anyway.
Now China realizes it's time to catch up specially when JSDF( or JSDA) is acting aggressively
PLA realizes though their future aircraft carrier may not be too much useful when facing US forces. But it's definitely useful to battle 2nd tier countries like Japan.
So the 1st step is to convert the former USSR "Varyag" into Â…sth you guess
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http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-11/05/content_491582.htmOriginally posted by 38�Ž:Nobody going to be fooled by Japs little tricks anyway.
Now China realizes it's time to catch up specially when JSDF( or JSDA) is acting aggressively
PLA realizes though their future aircraft carrier may not be too much useful when facing US forces. But it's definitely useful to battle 2nd tier countries like Japan.
So the 1st step is to convert the former USSR "Varyag" into Â…sth you guess
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Curbing Japan's move in wrong direction
China Daily Updated: 2005-11-05 06:22
Japan's shift to rightist nationalism appears to have no restraint. Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi appointed Monday a new cabinet whose key members gloss over the country's wartime past and espouse a tough policy line on its neighbours such as the two Koreas and China.
The cabinet reshuffle, which followed Koizumi's landslide election victory two months ago, came soon after the ruling Liberal Democratic Party endorsed a proposal to revise Japan's pacifist constitution, which would boost the status of the Self Defence Forces and give them a greater role and freedom in overseas operations.
The proposal also seeks the separation of state and religion, a move apparently aimed at facilitating government officials' visit to the Yasukuni Shrine, which honours Japan's war dead, including Class A criminals of World War II.
Taken together, these latest developments are a clear indication that the country is racing fast to the right, despite concerns raised by sensible Japanese and the international community.
A look at the profiles of just two of the new appointees is enough to convince one why the new Koizumi cabinet is a cause of grave concern. Foreign Minister Taro Aso and Chief Cabinet Secretary Shinzo Abe are both strong potential candidates to succeed Koizumi when he retires next September.
To begin with, the two conservatives back visits by Japanese leaders to Yasukuni, which is a symbol of Japan's militarism. Aso, who headed the Internal Affairs Ministry, was the only cabinet member to pay respects to the shrine in April. Abe also indicated upon his appointment that he would do the same.
We don't need to go any further than quoting Nobutaka Machimura, who was replaced by Aso, in questioning the sensibility of installing the two men in the cabinet. "If the prime minister, the chief cabinet secretary and the foreign minister all turn up to visit Yasukuni, it is feared it would lead to a quite serious situation," the outgoing minister said.
Adding to our worries is that Aso is one of the Japanese politicians who often glorify Tokyo's colonial rule of Korea. He argued in 2003 that Koreans were not forced by the colonialists to use Japanese names but did so willingly.
It is truly doubtful that Korea, China and other Asian countries who suffered so much at the hands of the brutal Japanese imperial colonialists can work with a man who is bent on glossing over his country's misdeeds.
On a broader perspective, the Republic of Korea (ROK) needs to work with its Asian neighbours, particularly China, to put a brake on Japan's expansionist policy, which is certain to pose a threat to regional stability.
In this vein, the upcoming summit between the ROK President Roh Moo-hyun and Chinese President Hu Jintao in Seoul ahead of the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation leaders' meeting would provide a good opportunity for the two countries to demonstrate their firm joint ground. For instance, they would be able to initiate international pressure on the wayward Japanese leaders not to visit Yasukuni.
The two leaders may do well to recall that their predecessors, Kim Young-sam and Jiang Zemin, at a summit in Seoul in 1995, joined in harsh denunciation of Japan's attempts to beautify its wartime atrocities.
Joint pressure coming from the ROK and China could be one of the ways to prevent Japan from creating the "quite serious situation" that its just-fired foreign minister worries about. Lining up other former victims of Japan's past expansionism in Asia behind such efforts would be more effective in curbing the country's ill-advised move in the wrong direction.
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http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-11/05/content_3734683.htmOriginally posted by 38�Ž:Nobody going to be fooled by Japs little tricks anyway.
Now China realizes it's time to catch up specially when JSDF( or JSDA) is acting aggressively
PLA realizes though their future aircraft carrier may not be too much useful when facing US forces. But it's definitely useful to battle 2nd tier countries like Japan.
So the 1st step is to convert the former USSR "Varyag" into Â…sth you guess
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Japan should have right attitude towards past: Singaporean official
www.chinaview.cn 2005-11-05 12:55:31
SINGAPORE, Nov. 5 (Xinhuanet) -- Japan should learn from Germany to have a right attitude towards the past it played during the Second World War, a senior Singaporean official has said.
In a recent interview with the Asahi Shimbun, a Japanese daily newspaper, Singapore Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong said Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's visits to the Yasukuni Shrine, as an emotionally sensitive issue, have become a stumbling block to mend ties between Japan and its Asian neighbors, especially China and South Korea.
Whatever Koizumi's explanation is, people outside Japan regard the action as a Japanese leader's symbolic visit to pay respects to the war dead, including the Class A criminals, Goh was quoted by the Straits Times as saying Saturday.
Such visits make China feel that Japan is "not quite sincere" in its war apology which Koizumi made in Bandung in April.
Goh noted that Japan failed to win the support of many Asian countries in its bid to become a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council because it can not "close the chapter on its past".
"Many countries here were victims of Japanese invasion during the Second World War, so it is difficult for Japan to win their support unless it recognizes what has happened in the past," he said. -
Japanese ship---what is the proper classification?Jap bulit 25 carriers in WW2.
Light carrier PRINCIPE DE ASTURIAS of Spain
Can Ski Jump added in later for take off?Why Japan leave a fall near the bow?
Have u seen similiar design before?Jane's Navy Ship Recoginition ,2 to 3 years ago,has highlighted this point.
Some big ships,what ever Jap calls them,have lifts for bring aircrafts from lower deck to flighting decks.
Janes's Fighting Ships 2005-2006 said:
A Japanese destoryer laid down in 2005 and will be launched in 2007,of 13,500 tons,length 135m x 32mx??m.The flight deck has 2 lifts and 4 heli spots.Bult by IHI Marine United of Yokohama.
Structualty broardlt similiar to Spanish light carrier PRINCIPE DE ASTURIAS,17,188 tons in full load .
Japan has 5 potential carriers over 10,000 tons
The ability of Jap to build carriers.or whatever they call it,is much better in WW2 or before that.With the debut of the first Japanese aircraft carrier in the 1920s,Imperial Japan Navy...
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What forward planning they had.To be exact,it was 1922 that the first carrier was launched.!! -
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A very good site for Japan Maritime Self Defence Force
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LST Osumi ClassThe JMSDF unveiled the 8,900 ton Osumi (LST) in the mid-1990s, which raised the anxieties of several countries in the region because of its flat deck gave it the appearance of a small aircraft carrier.
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DDH 13,500 ton ClassA proposed 13,500 ton helicopter-carrying destroyer, similar in design to a small aircraft carrier, would provide the Maritime Self-Defence Force with greater capability for force projection. A total of three SH-60J and one MCH-101 will be carried, and it is said to have the capacity to carry MH-53E and as many as 11 aircrafts......
However, in the end, the design that most fit the JMSDF's need - aircraft carrying capability - was choosen, which strongly resembles a normal aircraft carrier. -
Speaking of which, there is a Jap-US air exercise going on.
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You forgot to say something that SM Goh has mentioned in the interview.Originally posted by boy in blues:http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-11/05/content_3734683.htm
Japan should have right attitude towards past: Singaporean official
www.chinaview.cn 2005-11-05 12:55:31
SINGAPORE, Nov. 5 (Xinhuanet) -- Japan should learn from Germany to have a right attitude towards the past it played during the Second World War, a senior Singaporean official has said.
In a recent interview with the Asahi Shimbun, a Japanese daily newspaper, Singapore Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong said Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's visits to the Yasukuni Shrine, as an emotionally sensitive issue, have become a stumbling block to mend ties between Japan and its Asian neighbors, especially China and South Korea.
Whatever Koizumi's explanation is, people outside Japan regard the action as a Japanese leader's symbolic visit to pay respects to the war dead, including the Class A criminals, Goh was quoted by the Straits Times as saying Saturday.
Such visits make China feel that Japan is "not quite sincere" in its war apology which Koizumi made in Bandung in April.
Goh noted that Japan failed to win the support of many Asian countries in its bid to become a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council because it can not "close the chapter on its past".
"Many countries here were victims of Japanese invasion during the Second World War, so it is difficult for Japan to win their support unless it recognizes what has happened in the past," he said.
That is Singapore has already resolved the issue of world war 2 with Japan. Singapore has moved on. Today Singapore has an excellent relationship with Japan. Unlike South Korea & China , Singapore is one of the few countries that supported Japan bid to be a permanent member in the UN.
Singapore is also one of the few countries in the world that have a Free Trade Agreement with Japan.
Japan has invested hundred of millions of dollars in the petrolchemical industry in S'pore and has created thousands of jobs in Singapore with their investment. China only take away our jobs. -
Who cares about Japs.. they start something funny...more nukes gonna be dropped on them. Besides , its all about world peace now.. China Taiwan and Jap will be duking it out before even affecting us.. we just sit around wait until they obliterate each other..n we move to claim entire South East Asia... oops..forgot about India n Pakis.. well.. fudge them... they aint yellow skinned.. he he
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seems like they do have intentions of changing their military status.
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China relationship with Tibet is similar to England relationship with Scotland or Germany with Batavia & East Pussia.
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If Japan continue to strengthen their military force, inches by inches they will become a superpower of the East. Using an excuse as countering China, they may start their R&D again.
They have the $$$ and the technology, no one can stop them from being 1.
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The US will be the 1st one to cripple Japs any real development in their defense industry even before China can start worrying,Originally posted by Airforceone:If Japan continue to strengthen their military force, inches by inches they will become a superpower of the East. Using an excuse as countering China, they may start their R&D again.
They have the $$$ and the technology, no one can stop them from being 1.
The only reason Japan is not a superpower is because she has chosen not to pursue that course.
Good example is that US force Japan to accept it as the development partner in the F-2 fighter project just to make sure it's a failure at the end.
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Batavia is now part of the nederlands i think and East prussia is now part of Russia(Kaliningrad)Originally posted by archon1234:China relationship with Tibet is similar to England relationship with Scotland or Germany with Batavia & East Pussia. -
They are the 4th largest navy in the world w/o aircraft carrier....talk about being JMSDF...Japan Maritime Self Defence Force...
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Now who's doing big-time wayang?
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Only Northern part of East Prussia is part of Russia,Southern part goes to Poland today~~~Originally posted by |-|05|:Batavia is now part of the nederlands i think and East prussia is now part of Russia(Kaliningrad) -
Though it is still quite funny that the German people who unified the German states to form modern Germany is called 'Prussians'~~~Originally posted by archon1234:China relationship with Tibet is similar to England relationship with Scotland or Germany with Batavia & East Pussia.
I would that the relationship btw Germany and Poland from late 19th century til end of WW1 is more like China relationship with Tibet~~~ -
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Japanese mini aircraft carrierclick here
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F15 J--note the air brake?
303 Fighter Sq F-15J -
agree. what is so good about Japan? they still haven repent for WWIIOriginally posted by dragg:whatever they buy only the arms manufacturers, mainly americans, will be happy.
its silly. if china attacks there is nothing japan can do to stop it. -
bro ... all I can say to you is ... please don't judge an entire people from history, or for that matter, from the actions of a few right wing militarist hawks, that is just racism crouched in historical baggage, isn't it ? speaking of history, perhaps you should read up on your country's relationship with japan in the post WWII period ...Originally posted by huaqing:agree. what is so good about Japan? they still haven repent for WWII
cheers ...