RSAF still flies F-5?
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We have 53 F-5 fighters in all...Originally posted by sbst275:We dun have 32
Neither all came in 1979
42 F-5S
4 F-5T
7 RF-5S
Source: Air International 2004 World Air Forces Directory -
GoodOriginally posted by Lance_han:and a International Incident on our hands
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hmm.. I am surprised we only have 4x F-5T/F-5F.... I would think there are more!?Originally posted by Delta 5:We have 53 F-5 fighters in all...
42 F-5S
4 F-5T
7 RF-5S
Source: Air International 2004 World Air Forces Directory
Can we confirm the source of all the F5s? I believe some are ex-Royal Jordanian Air Force a/c. -
There are from Jordan that came in 1994Originally posted by spencer99:hmm.. I am surprised we only have 4x F-5T/F-5F.... I would think there are more!?
Can we confirm the source of all the F5s? I believe some are ex-Royal Jordanian Air Force a/c.
But, offically 4 nia -
When our F-15 comes....Originally posted by |-|05|:Lol so you'd stand in the open when a MIG-29 comes at you and wave because you might think it's our's?
Nah just messing with you hah
U might need more skill to ident it with naked eyes between F-15 and MiG-29 when they are flying at a far range -
F-5 is more a sharp noise rather than soft.....Originally posted by Shotgun:F-16 = LOUD
F-5 = SOFT
Actually they are a bit hard to tell apart. But after a while, u'll be able to see the difference. the F-5s just have a more dart like feel to it. -
Trust me, when an f-5 flies over ur house, u can ignore it. When f-16 flies over my place, my middle finger goes up. =D
But, i love the sound of jets in the morning. =) -
Haiz.....If only we have the knowledge and capability to modify our F-5's not only in term of avionics and flight system but airframe and powerplant.....i wouldn't mind being part of that team.hopefully we are moving towards that
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Originally posted by Shotgun:
Wait till you hear the sound of those F-15 engines. One thing to describe it -POWER. I experienced it during my OI days, A-4s & F-5s you will not bothered to look into the sky. F-18s, you will curse it when they flew over during lectures, but F-15s, you will stop and look.
[b]...when an f-5 flies over ur house, u can ignore it. When f-16 flies over my place, my middle finger goes up. =D ... -
YES! I agree completely, got a taste of it last yr.Originally posted by Black Aces:Wait till you hear the sound of those F-15 engines. One thing to describe it -POWER. I experienced it during my OI days, A-4s & F-5s you will not bothered to look into the sky. F-18s, you will curse it when they flew over during lectures, but F-15s, you will stop and look. -
Anyone feels that we should have ordered F/A-18E/F Super Hornets instead?
It is after all a generation ahead of design compared to the F-15 and is a type that will serve for a long time still with the US Navy. It is in fact intended to work in tandem with the F-35B JSF.
Are there any significant advantages that the Hornet has over the F-15?
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F15 despite is considerably older than F18, but F15 strike eagle is still the mainstay for the USAF for at least another 1 or 2 decades. We can expect the F15 to exceed the F18 in almost aspects. Pls note that only KEY US Allies operate F15. The technologies behind the F15 is the top notch, it is something that not money can buy one...it depends if Uncle Sam trust u or not
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I've heard the F-15E's roar overhead before. 2 years ago to be exact.
Perhaps it was some exercise or something. I was on my way to the airport when i saw this. 2 Strike Eagles. Low altitude, FAST. One peeled off gently, 1 or 2 gs perhaps. Lead eagle carried on, later pulled up, estimated about 4-5 gs perhaps? Previous eagle seemed to carry on in a designator turn, while the attacking eagle half cut back the opposite direction it was heading.
I assume the lead was dropping the LGB, while his wingman was designating the target.
Fantastic stuff, wished i recorded it tho. And this all happened in Singapore. -
Yep, I watched the F-15s every single day streak to the top from PLAB. No other aircraft I watched from my home could ever climb almost vertical save F-16s. In fact, after the F-15s have flown off, and the F-5s follow, the F-5s seem lousy in comparison.Originally posted by Shotgun:I've heard the F-15E's roar overhead before. 2 years ago to be exact.
Perhaps it was some exercise or something. I was on my way to the airport when i saw this. 2 Strike Eagles. Low altitude, FAST. One peeled off gently, 1 or 2 gs perhaps. Lead eagle carried on, later pulled up, estimated about 4-5 gs perhaps? Previous eagle seemed to carry on in a designator turn, while the attacking eagle half cut back the opposite direction it was heading.
I assume the lead was dropping the LGB, while his wingman was designating the target.
Fantastic stuff, wished i recorded it tho. And this all happened in Singapore. Sure the F-15s fly slower bcos of the loud sound they create....but the sound is POWER. You can still hear it from far. In fact the engines seem to be growling for more speed. -
U shud hear the racket they make in their transsonic phase.... and the boom that follows... wooO!
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Racket?! Thats an insult!Originally posted by Shotgun:U shud hear the racket they make in their transsonic phase.... and the boom that follows... wooO! It is much louder than that. -
Never heard the F15 before (mebbe next time reservist got chance), but it was an awesome feeling to be standing next to the runway when an F16 takes off. All that earth-trembling raw power... almost convinced me to sign on airforce
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Here's a place where you can listen to all types of glorious jet engine roars for 10 straight hours. The Royal International Air Tattoo at RAF Fairford. They call it the largest air show (strict air show, not aviation trade show) in the world.
Look at the site below for the aircraft that participated in the 2005 show.
http://www.airtattoo.com/airtattoo/showcontent.asp?CollectionID=@0000000312
I was at the 1999 show and they had a B-2 on static and flying display. It was silent until it passed over you. After that, it was still fairly quiet.
The Mig-29, SU-27, Mirage 2000, F-104 and Viggen made some of the loudest screams. -
Not exactly. When I was in Louisville Kentucky, there was a major event that happense there. Its called the kentucky derby. They've got major airshows and the largest fireworks display on earth.
Their airshow sees the participation from USAF, USN units from all over the country. Be it Thunderbirds or Blue Angels. While I was landing at their domestic airport, I even saw a B1B lancer, and B-52 parked on the tarmac. Amazing stuff. No sign of the elusive B2 tho. -
The RIAT is best of both worlds, large contingents from USAF Europe, RAF and paricipation from many European air forces. Each year's show usually have 3 or 4 aerobatic display teams, plus lots of solo aircraft aerobatics.
Having watched the Thunderbirds, Red Arrows, Frecce Tricolori, Patrouille de France, Patrulla Aguila, Roulettes, RMAF display team and Black Knights in person and Blue Angels on video, my verdict is the big European teams have much more spectacular displays.
The American teams' routines are very predictable and lack real variety, always doing variations of the diamond and 2 opposing solos.
The British, French and Italian teams have more aircraft and have much more varied and visually pleasing formations. A real treat!
Roulettes? Disappointing! They have Hornets but pick the PC-9, what a waste. -
Hey sound isn't a ideal choice in war, u should have check out the avonics onboard the F15. Its latest radar could detect more than 25NM compared to our F16. And if they combined to fly together, they conquer the sky. Try to search for the Wall of eagles!Originally posted by SBS1908B:Racket?! Thats an insult! It is much louder than that.
BTW, its true that the F5-T model are so few as they are ideally for intel ops not for combat ops.
Even if the F15 and MIG29 were to compared together at abt 1km, one could still spot the huge diff, especially the huge fuselage that the mig has -
The shape of the aircraft is only one of the factors in IFF (Identification Friend or Foe), the radar signature also plays a part as do any electronics emissions that are produced by a bogey.
There was a period of time that both the RSAF and RMAF operated F-5 Tigers and Skyhawks. I would say it would be harder to tell the difference between a Singaporean and Malaysian F-5, compared to identifying betwen a MIG-29/SU-30 and an F-15. -
well, if its shooting at you, its the enemyOriginally posted by cleong:The shape of the aircraft is only one of the factors in IFF (Identification Friend or Foe), the radar signature also plays a part as do any electronics emissions that are produced by a bogey.
There was a period of time that both the RSAF and RMAF operated F-5 Tigers and Skyhawks. I would say it would be harder to tell the difference between a Singaporean and Malaysian F-5, compared to identifying betwen a MIG-29/SU-30 and an F-15. -
If only it was so easy!Originally posted by sgFish:well, if its shooting at you, its the enemy -
Dunt judge the ability of upgraded platform by its original age and eras.
For Sg ,she is good to turn around old platform into 20 years younger!!
Our (Singapore Technologies Aerospace (ST Aerospace)) F-5 upgrade programme includes installation of modern avionics which matches the capabilities of advanced front-line aircraft like the F-16s and F-18s, providing you a cost-effective solution for developing realistic training platform for air crews converting to front-line squadrons.
I trust them!! You?
pl go to Sg F5 match F16 & F18?