kevlar Vest

• SpecOps87

  2 Oct 05, 00:51

  Been wondering, we always see our troops on TV durin exercises, never wear any bullet vests.Am wondering, when war comes, will the ordinary trooper be issued bullet-proof vests or flak vests? And also..are they only for the SOF, Special Forces people or for all? As we have limited manpower, any expense spent on protection of our troops is definitely worth its weight in gold
  
• ditzy

  2 Oct 05, 00:52

  Garang mah. Kevlar expensive leh, we got full metal jackets though, cheaper and easier to replace.
• rascallyun

  2 Oct 05, 00:56

  Its heavy and hot too. But i guess if its to be introduced. Gotta get the users adjusted to wearing them.
• dumbdumb!

  2 Oct 05, 01:09

  can't be hotter than fighting fire.
• Obersturmfuhrer

  2 Oct 05, 01:28

  Originally posted by dumbdumb!:

  can't be hotter than fighting fire.

  I sense another "I'm better than you" implication....
• ditzy

  2 Oct 05, 01:30

  Its heavy, if you run out of ammo, just throw it at your enemy, I gurantee you might break his head.
• gary1910

  2 Oct 05, 01:43

  Originally posted by ditzy:

  Its heavy, if you run out of ammo, just throw it at your enemy, I gurantee you might break his head.

  wat's the weight??
• coffeeortea

  2 Oct 05, 01:45

  lol.. train the soldiers to kill fast or use surroundings tactfully as shields/shelters.. then only need gun
• lwflee

  2 Oct 05, 02:20

  Originally posted by coffeeortea:

  lol.. train the soldiers to kill fast or use surroundings tactfully as shields/shelters.. then only need gun

  Nonsense. The implication is that with a kevlar vest you do not need to make tactical use of the environment? Also nonsense to say that tactical use of environment obviates the need for kevlar protection.
  
  Soldiers on foot patrol = walking target.
  
  Soldier on Sentry Duty = Sitting Duck.
  
  Soldier in Jeep = What cover?
• SpecOps87

  2 Oct 05, 22:35

  Erm...dun quite answer the question does it?Haha, so will our boys be wearin armour anot?
• crazy monkey

  2 Oct 05, 22:40

  Originally posted by SpecOps87:

  Erm...dun quite answer the question does it?Haha, so will our boys be wearin armour anot?

  no.
• fudgester

  2 Oct 05, 23:06

  Well, if memory serves, when Tekong was 'invaded' by those three robbers last year, the troops sent in to hunt them down had Kevlar vests on.
  
  Can anyone clarify?
  
• SpecOps87

  2 Oct 05, 23:53

  Thought those guys who were hunting them had on the so called LBV (Load Bearing Vest) for them to store their barang barang in a efficient way as compared to the old SBO.
  
  
• NathanG5

  3 Oct 05, 00:07

  Originally posted by fudgester:

  Well, if memory serves, when Tekong was 'invaded' by those three robbers last year, the troops sent in to hunt them down had Kevlar vests on.
  
  Can anyone clarify?
  

  yes
• NathanG5

  3 Oct 05, 00:08

  Originally posted by SpecOps87:

  Thought those guys who were hunting them had on the so called LBV (Load Bearing Vest) for them to store their barang barang in a efficient way as compared to the old SBO.
  
  

  they are wearing both..the LBV n BPV
• Si Geena

  3 Oct 05, 11:14

  Kevlar is actually one of the more well-known and documented types of materials used for Ballistic Resistant Vest, or what is otherwise known as Bullet Proof Vests.
  
  Bear in mind, Bullet Proof Vest is actaully a mis-nomer, as you can always find a bigger, or faster bullet to defeat the existing armour around. The industry term is Ballistic Resistant Vest, or Body Armour.
  
  Kevlar is from the Aramid family, there are also other types of materials, such as High Density PolyEthylene (HDPE) and PBO.
  
  Weight wise, Kevlar is actually quite heavy compared to HDPE in terms of performance. However, it is also cheaper as material.
  
  There will always be confliscitng trade-offs if one is to design body armour as a LBV. Body Armour is meant to protect critical areas, therefore, there is generally coverage at shoulder areas and groin areas, which means greater impediment to agility and movement.
  
  Body Armour will be donn depending on the mission profile.
• SpecOps87

  3 Oct 05, 14:02

  Peace-keeping ops, i see them don bullet proof vests, what about full-out war? Jungle warfare,FIBUA,FOFO etc.?
  
• crazy monkey

  3 Oct 05, 14:07

  Originally posted by SpecOps87:

  Peace-keeping ops, i see them don bullet proof vests, what about full-out war? Jungle warfare,FIBUA,FOFO etc.?
  

  you never serve NS before rite ?
• Shigemichi Take

  3 Oct 05, 14:45

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  you never serve NS before rite ?

  
  
• Obersturmfuhrer

  3 Oct 05, 20:11

  I don't see what's so funny about a pre-NS guy asking all these questions.
• SpecOps87

  4 Oct 05, 10:44

  IF they are issued,what class level of protection will the vests be?
• crazy monkey

  4 Oct 05, 10:45

  Originally posted by Obersturmfuhrer:

  I don't see what's so funny about a pre-NS guy asking all these questions.

  if you serve NS before you dun want to go chiong sua with all the extra weight.
• Si Geena

  4 Oct 05, 15:36

  The level? Militaries tend to go for the higher spectrum of protection. Level IIIA without plates and Level III plates with specified protection against the 5.56 AP round.
  
  Nope... No body ever wants to chiong sua in that. But then again, ask me if I would mind wearing one when the rounds go whizzing by.
  
  
• Obersturmfuhrer

  4 Oct 05, 16:16

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  if you serve NS before you dun want to go chiong sua with all the extra weight.

  Well, noone wants to. Besides, he's only asking IF it is issued during conflicts, I don't see him clamouring for it. Neither is it certain that if body armour will or will not be issued come war.
  
  Again I see no big deal in anyone asking that question. Everyone has the right to be curious.
• SpecOps87

  4 Oct 05, 18:01

  In a firefight, I would hope to have every little bit of protection made available to me. You gonne give up your body armour to me if war ever comes?