A Stiff stick. (NO PUN INTENDED DAMMIT!)
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K, the flight stick on the F-16 is on the right. And the interesting part is that it doesn't move, unlike conventional designs, centred stick designs. The flight stick literally detects pressure exerted on it, and converts it into maneuvers.
Now, is that actually better than the concentional stick that actually moves around? -
So high tiak ar?
Why not make it like the click wheel on the ipod? -
Of course high tiak lar... Air force jet leh... u think like driving some toyota corolla or proton saga meh? LOL
Seriously... My last experience with it was super confusing. Ended up like fighting the stick like that... i'd be pulling hard at the stick nothing happens... apparently, it kinda locks up when u exert excessive pressure... so to fly the F-16, must be GENTLE. -
Then the pressure sensor screw up how? No need to fly? Power failure? Gone case?
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if the electrics are lost, most prob the flight computer will go too. the f-16 is unflyable without the flight computer, hence whether the stick is affected or not doesnt matter.
the price to pay for an aerodynamically unstable design.
The F-15 on the other hand is stable... can fly without the flight computer. -
if the thing is so sensitive to pressure, what happens when your jet spins or when you get thrown around in the cabin due to turbulence and your hand jerks.
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It's like that so that too much pressure cannot be put on it causing the A/C to screw up.
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from wiki:Originally posted by Shotgun:K, the flight stick on the F-16 is on the right. And the interesting part is that it doesn't move, unlike conventional designs, centred stick designs. The flight stick literally detects pressure exerted on it, and converts it into maneuvers.
Now, is that actually better than the concentional stick that actually moves around?This lack of physical linkages between the control stick the flight surfaces lead to an unusal characteristic of the design of the control stick; the control stick in the F-16 did not move. The control stick instead detected pressure applied by the pilot and translated that pressure into control of the aircraft. This arrangement proved uncomfortable pilots and difficult to adjust to so the control stick was given a small amount of play, however it is less than a quarter of an inch in any direction, merely superficial for the sake of the pilots. Control is still determined by the amount and direction of the pressure applied to the control stick.
the stick moves a bit if this thing is true... -
If I squeezed the stick tightly, will the plane crush itself?
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the F-16's flight computer is a quad-redundant system, so it has to fail 4 times before the viper departs from controlled flight. the odds of one failing is already very low, and the quad-redundancy would decrease the odds of failing exponentially (^4).Originally posted by Shotgun:if the electrics are lost, most prob the flight computer will go too. the f-16 is unflyable without the flight computer, hence whether the stick is affected or not doesnt matter.
the price to pay for an aerodynamically unstable design.
The F-15 on the other hand is stable... can fly without the flight computer.
unless you're talking about EMP. now thats something else
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So if the plane really fails on a friday, and the pilot lives to tell the tale, theres also an exponential^4 chance he'll strike 4d on coming saturday?Originally posted by sgFish:the F-16's flight computer is a quad-redundant system, so it has to fail 4 times before the viper departs from controlled flight. the odds of one failing is already very low, and the quad-redundancy would decrease the odds of failing exponentially (^4).
unless you're talking about EMP. now thats something else -
if you stroke it up and down, would it do a fuel dump?Originally posted by ditzy:If I squeezed the stick tightly, will the plane crush itself? -
F-15 is aerodynamically stable thats why it could land with one wing.
Try that with eurofighter/rafale -
I really can't contain my curiosity. F-15 landing with one wing??? Maybe you made a typo error? Could you please direct me to your source? It's aerodynamically impossible, but im open to new inputs. I would think the plane will spin out of control and you'll ve a GDBH (GOD DAMN BLOODY HELL) time fighting the G-force and reaching for the EJECT handle!! Let along fly and land the plane!Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:F-15 is aerodynamically stable thats why it could land with one wing.
ORCA
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I WILL ALWAYS PLACE MY MISSION FIRST.
I WILL NEVER ACCEPT DEFEAT.
I WILL NEVER QUIT.
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All things in the air eventually land, whether with 10 wings, 2 wings, 1 wing and even no wings. It is a phenemon based on physics ... called gravity. The main thing is, it lands in how many piecesOriginally posted by SMAPLionHeart:F-15 is aerodynamically stable thats why it could land with one wing. -
This is why russian jets are much more prefered in battlefields.
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Correct. The following source is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:F-15 is aerodynamically stable thats why it could land with one wing.
Try that with eurofighter/rafale
"On May 1, 1983 during an Israeli Air Force training dogfight, an F-15D collided with an A-4 Skyhawk. The right wing of the Eagle was torn off roughly two feet (0.6 m) from the body. The pilot disobeyed his instructor's command to eject and managed to land the crippled aircraft successfully. The aircraft was able to land because the large horizontal surface area of the tail and the amount of lift generated by the engine intake and body" -
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i tot it oni applied to f22Originally posted by Shotgun:if the electrics are lost, most prob the flight computer will go too. the f-16 is unflyable without the flight computer, hence whether the stick is affected or not doesnt matter.
the price to pay for an aerodynamically unstable design.
The F-15 on the other hand is stable... can fly without the flight computer. -
Huh, I trust an 80s era joystick more than I trust that click wheel if I were to choose which one to use to pilot a plane.Originally posted by ditzy:So high tiak ar? Why not make it like the click wheel on the ipod? -
mouse ah... erm.. those of u who played some of those space combat sims that tried to use mouse to aim will know how that feels. Besides, if ur plane dives at zero -g, ur mouse will float... how to control the aircraft?
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Fly a plane using the OS of the Freedom....thats the best....then when u go SEED mode......all ure enemies can say bye bye
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I stand corrected. OUTSTANDING! One hell of an aircraft! One hell of a pilot!Originally posted by kotay:
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I WILL ALWAYS PLACE MY MISSION FIRST.
I WILL NEVER ACCEPT DEFEAT.
I WILL NEVER QUIT.
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The F-15 is one hardy bird. Especially the F-15E. Its a tank of a fighter.
If i was an opfor pilot, I'd double target the F-15E with a pair of missiles. And not just one of those puny dogfight missiles, but pair of AA-10Cs or AA-12s just to be sure. Make sure it stays dead.
Can imagine wad kinda trim corrections and rudder the pilot has to make in order to maintain level flight with a wing gone? I'd probably throttle the missing wing side's engine higher than the the side with a wing. Still one heck of a ride. -
So its like driving a car at 70km/h on the highway, and losing both wheels on one side, but still able to drive it all the way to the next nearest gas station?