JAS-39 Gripen
-
Yes NS has been in full force since 1903
and in modern time (70-90s) we all did between 7,5-12 months of National service ( i did 10 as a squadleader in RB70 and Bofors 40/70)
today, since our goverment has decided there is no external threath to Sweden
we have reduced our forces by 70% and nowdays we call up 7000 yearly (it was 50 000 before) they have to do two "terms" (11 months) and can volunteer for international duty (5+5 months) -
10 months?How much of that period is basic training?Originally posted by VikingS:Yes NS has been in full force since 1903 and in modern time (70-90s) we all did between 7,5-12 months of National service ( i did 10 as a squadleader in RB70 and Bofors 40/70)
today, since our goverment has decided there is no external threath to Sweden we have reduced our forces by 70% and nowdays we call up 7000 yearly (it was 50 000 before) they have to do two "terms" (11 months) and can volunteer for international duty (5+5 months)
I was trained in Small Arms maintenance
and I served 2.5 years as a 3SG(Third Sergeant) -
A 7,5 months private used doOriginally posted by LazerLordz:10 months?How much of that period is basic training?
I was trained in Small Arms maintenance and I served 2.5 years as a 3SG(Third Sergeant)
8 weeks basic training
8 weeks Platon/company equipment traning
10 weeks field exercises
4 week large field exercises in Batallion/Brigade frame
and then in too the reserve force (1st line Brigades) with refresher call ups every 4 year and a 24hour mobilisation time
at the age of 27-30 (for combat units) you move over to territorial force untill the age of 47, then its voluntary if you want to stay in the homeguard
This is as it used to be -
Valkommen!!! Hur ar laget??Originally posted by VikingS:Yes NS has been in full force since 1903 and in modern time (70-90s) we all did between 7,5-12 months of National service ( i did 10 as a squadleader in RB70 and Bofors 40/70)
today, since our goverment has decided there is no external threath to Sweden we have reduced our forces by 70% and nowdays we call up 7000 yearly (it was 50 000 before) they have to do two "terms" (11 months) and can volunteer for international duty (5+5 months) -
Tackar som frågar, är du nere i SP pga av Ubåteriet?Originally posted by riken1974:Valkommen!!! Hur ar laget??
KA Lt hemma i vinterhelvetet -
I'm a former submariner trained by the Swede. Jag kan bara liten Svenska.Originally posted by VikingS:Tackar som frågar, är du nere i SP pga av Ubåteriet?
KA Lt hemma i vinterhelvetet -
Ahh, whe are almost colleagues thenOriginally posted by riken1974:I'm a former submariner trained by the Swede. Jag kan bara liten Svenska.
What i said in my post was i am a Former Coastal artillery LT and complaing about a spell of snow and cold whether we have down/up here. I know that you are making us proud of your good handling of the Riken Class and i hope you liked serving in the subs. and visiting my country
Been working 3 years in detecting subs by MAD and Accoustic ( MK1 Ear and LOFAR) -
You must have a hard time in hunting subs which is very time consuming.Originally posted by VikingS:Ahh, whe are almost colleagues then What i said in my post was i am a Former Coastal artillery LT and complaing about a spell of snow and cold whether we have down/up here. I know that you are making us proud of your good handling of the Riken Class and i hope you liked serving in the subs. and visiting my country
Been working 3 years in detecting subs by MAD and Accoustic ( MK1 Ear and LOFAR)
Yes, I had a fun time while training in Sweden and the country is beautiful except for the winter and some racist over there in Karlskrona. We only know that Karlskrona is the Neo-Nazist HQ back then when we arrived there.
Yes, we have handle them well and kick USN big fat butt (Carrier Group) in one of our exercise. You guys have train us well. Uppland (Gotland Class)has kick some butt too in the US when they were leased by the USN last year.
By the way I was in Sjolejonet. Right now, have left the navy and purusing other career.
Hejda. Ha det sa bra. Trevlig Helsa. -
-
Gripen is a gd aircraft but it's has flaw mainly it's lack of acceration n e HUD tend 2 give off a green glint revealing it's position n only average BVR capability.
-
Yup and 99% boring and 1% excitment. Old SLEOriginally posted by riken1974:You must have a hard time in hunting subs which is very time consuming.
Yes, I had a fun time while training in Sweden and the country is beautiful except for the winter and some racist over there in Karlskrona. We only know that Karlskrona is the Neo-Nazist HQ back then when we arrived there.
Yes, we have handle them well and kick USN big fat butt (Carrier Group) in one of our exercise. You guys have train us well. Uppland (Gotland Class)has kick some butt too in the US when they were leased by the USN last year.
By the way I was in Sjolejonet. Right now, have left the navy and purusing other career.
Hejda. Ha det sa bra. Trevlig Helsa. I and my soldiers have detected her on a exercise in the 80s
Well the winter is shit but it makes you love the looong summerdays more, and even if the F-king Skinnheads are strong in KKA they still are a minority, and i really hope you and you collegues didnt have any problems. I am out after 22 years and is working with computers nowdays.
GMY LT H -
How i envy u guys
-
Swedish Air Force could scrap 70 planes
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3654&date=20060426
Published: 26th April 2006 11:14 CET
Up to 70 JAS fighter planes could be scrapped if they are not able to be sold, according to a proposal submitted to the Swedish Ministry of Defence by the leader of the Swedish armed forces.
The proposal, from Supreme Commander Håkan Syrén, is attached to the 2007 military budget. He suggests that there should be around 100 operation JAS (Jakt/Attack/Spaning - Fighter/Attack/Reconnaissance) fighter planes in the Swedish Air Force.
This leaves 65-70 planes too many. If these planes, which have cost taxpayers around 20 billion kronor, cannot be sold, the proposal suggests they should be discarded.
But according to General Lieutenant Mats Nilsson, a slimming of the fleet is necessary, despite the cost.
"We need to have a proper number to be able to operate the system in the long-term from the type of organization which parliament and the government have determined," Nilsson said.
The entire JAS fighter plane program has cost Swedish taxpayers around 100 billion kronor.
A total of 204 JAS series fighter planes have been produced, both for Swedish military use and for export.
Of these, only 28 planes have been exported so far. 14 have been sold to Hungary and 14 to the Czech Republic. -
kinda wasted...unless they can manage to sell off the extras planes
-
Well, that depends on the going price for them. Gripens are today's equivalent of the F-5 in the early 70s.Affordable and ready for deployment without much fuss, a more than capable multirole fighter for developing countries friendly to the free world.Originally posted by duotiga83:kinda wasted...unless they can manage to sell off the extras planes 
-
how about giving it to New Zealand Air Force?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Well, that depends on the going price for them. Gripens are today's equivalent of the F-5 in the early 70s.Affordable and ready for deployment without much fuss, a more than capable multirole fighter for developing countries friendly to the free world. Since they have decommission their A-4 -
The RNZAF will not operate any combat aircraft in the future and take on a transport and support role only. Sadly this is the result of the new government's decision since coming to power in 2001.Originally posted by duotiga83:how about giving it to New Zealand Air Force? Since they have decommission their A-4
The only armed aircraft are operated by the navy with a small number of P-3C Orions and SH-2G Seasprites. -
Getting the extra Gripen is a really good buy if one actually knows the true capabilities of the Gripen especially in the area of data link and information sharing. It would make great F-5 replacement.
As attractive as it may seem, 70 planes still cost a heck lot of money and I doubt anyone could just buy them in 1 go... Even if Singapore barter trade say 100 pieces of Primus and a few Endurance, lets say 4, I doubt it still covers the price of secondhand Gripen, not to forget, these babies need to be upgraded too. -
I agree with LaserLordz,any1 know south africa ordered how many Gripens???
-
I don't think RSAF will be planning to get any aircraft to replace the F-5S,at least for the moment. Most probably, they wish to minimise the number of aircraft types to 2. They are still waiting for the purchase of the JSF but if the program delays further or plagued with problems like what happened with the Typhoon then perhaps they will get an interim fighter to replace the by then aging F-16C/Ds.
However, personally i feel that having Gripens to replace the F-5S is a good thing because its a good plane. More planes is always better than less! -
Perhaps the best thing for the Swedish too get rid of the Gripen is to sell them to Taiwan
Taiwan can start replacing their F-5E/Fs with the Gripen. -
Ok maybe this may interest you guys. I saw this in a issue of Flight International a couple of months back.Originally posted by tankee1981:I don't think RSAF will be planning to get any aircraft to replace the F-5S,at least for the moment. Most probably, they wish to minimise the number of aircraft types to 2. They are still waiting for the purchase of the JSF but if the program delays further or plagued with problems like what happened with the Typhoon then perhaps they will get an interim fighter to replace the by then aging F-16C/Ds.
However, personally i feel that having Gripens to replace the F-5S is a good thing because its a good plane. More planes is always better than less!
The RSAF has apparently abandoned its plans to reduce the number of combat types from 3 to 2. Reasons were stated such as the need for a replacement for the F-5S/T fleet to be introduced in the 2010-2015 timeframe and that the F-35A is not expected to be available for export before 2014. The F-35A also has increased problems with costs and capability, notwithstanding the likelihood of the USA to release only a reduced capability export version. The RSAF has not yet expressed its full commitment to the F-35A. The Swedish JAS-39C/D Gripen and the South Korean A-50 are also emerging as competitors to replace the F-5S/T.
Further purchases of the F-15T beyond the current number of 20 may be influenced by attractive offers by Dassault and the Eurofighter Consortium in the next decade, if the RSAF decides to opt for a plane for air superiority and strike escort missions with a secondary ground attack capability. Furthermore, the RSAF needs to commit to additional F-15Ts by 2008 if the production line is to be extended beyond 2010. -
Originally posted by ^ Delta^
This is very intresting! This shows that Singapore's confidence in the JSF program is decreasing and may not want to buy them in the future! If thats the case, i think RSAF may choose to get more of the F-15SG for a competent long range strike force to truely replace the Super Skyhawks. Then will get the latest version of Rafale or Typhoon for true air superiority. It will be best if ^Delta^ can provide a scan of this article or some links if possible. Thanks
The RSAF has apparently abandoned its plans to reduce the number of combat types from 3 to 2. Reasons were stated such as the need for a replacement for the F-5S/T fleet to be introduced in the 2010-2015 timeframe and that the F-35A is not expected to be available for export before 2014. The F-35A also has increased problems with costs and capability, notwithstanding the likelihood of the USA to release only a reduced capability export version. The RSAF has not yet expressed its full commitment to the F-35A. The Swedish JAS-39C/D Gripen and the South Korean A-50 are also emerging as competitors to replace the F-5S/T.
Further purchases of the F-15T beyond the current number of 20 may be influenced by attractive offers by Dassault and the Eurofighter Consortium in the next decade, if the RSAF decides to opt for a plane for air superiority and strike escort missions with a secondary ground attack capability. Furthermore, the RSAF needs to commit to additional F-15Ts by 2008 if the production line is to be extended beyond 2010 -
Purchasing the F15SG makes sense, as it will make the option for RSAF with a a heavy firepower delivery with surgical precision aircraft. The bomb load for F15SG is 11.1 tons. In addition, people familiar with F15 should know that F15 is one of the handful plane that is capable to enage in high G turns with FULL weapon load.
The new radar on our F15SG is the most powerful in the SE Asia, only out-class by the F22 radar. This is critical in the post modern air combat arena. Being the last few customer, always get some SPECIAL discounts and EXTRAs, u know
No point wasting $$ on the MIG nor SUKKOI, spare parts supplies too unstable to maintain an effective continous air operation in the war times.
On the other hand, investing in the JAS 39 as a lead trainer plane do make sense. First of all, the JAS 39 is capable of providing good training to the future F15SG pilots. JAS 39 can provide training in Air-to-Air, Air-to-Ground and even Air-to-Sea training. In war time, JAS 39 is a potent war plane and provide a high standard in Attack, Recon, Air Superioirity roles that are unmatched by Hawk 200 and T-50. -
Now why would we want to invest in the Gripen as a TRAINER? Kind of a waste for such an aircraft.
I hope the RSAF considers the Typhoon once it gets radar upgraded. Nothing beats a high T/W ratio aircraft that can carry 10 AMRAAMs.