Water conflict flushed away.
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NEWater makes Chance of Water conflict reduced
That's exactly what the Ulu Pandan plant may achieve. Keppel Integrated
STimes 13.07.05
Engineering chief executive Chua Chee Wui said his company would supply Newater to PUB at only 30 cents per cubic metre. This is believed to be lower than the cost at which PUB was producing Newater at the three older plants.
How much you pay for water?Dunt be anger with PUB for it paid millions for infrastructures.We can solve water problems in our back yard.The reservoirs in the north is dispensable in the future,voluntarily.
Dependency on Malaysia reduced from about 45% to 28 % in 2011
Currently,Sg consumed about 500Mm3,million cubic meter per year.Few knows that only 45 % come from MY.It is one of the best kept secret!It is about 1,370,000m3 x 45%=620,000m3 per day come fr MY.The new Ulu Pandan plant will more than double Newater production capacity from 92,000 cubic metres per day to 208,000 cubic metres per day - enough to fill 104 Olympic-size swimming pools. A year ago, about 68,000 cubic metres of Newater were being used daily.
With the completion of desalination plant(10% of yearlyconsumption),Marina Barrage,and inter-connectionof all reservoirs(55%x 14%=8%).
Mr Lim Chiow Giap, PUB's director for water supply plants, said the
production capacity of the new plant, at 116,000 cubic metres a day, is more
than the combined capacities of the three existing plants in Bedok, Kranji and
Seletar.
Projected sources of water supply in 2011,per day,in m3
Local catchment............740,000...m3
NEWater.......................208,000
Desalination.................134,000
Marina Reservoir............80,000
Reservoirs intergrated.100,000
Total local sources....1,262,000
Let say yearly increase in water consumption is 3%.Then in 2011,we need 1,740,000m3 per day.That is we need import 480,000m3 water from MY.
That is only 28% of our consumption in 2011.
Advance in water reclamation technology
It will make us less dependent on MY beyond our imagination.Much of NEWater will be consumed by wafer fab factories(semi-conductors).They consume about 20% of Sg water!!
One desalination plant costs only $200m to build.We have plenty of land in Tuas and Changi East as big as three Changi airports.Resources to reclaim water has never been a issue .
Water in north not easy to filterRM1b to clean up rivers in Johor
The rivers names sound familiar?Yes,some of our water come from there.
Sim Bak Heng,New Strait Times
JOHOR BARU, June 5 2005
RM 1 billion. That is how much Johor needs to clean up the three most polluted rivers in the State.
Pos Malaysia The three rivers — Sungai Skudai, Sungai Tebrau and Sungai Segget — carry pollutants such as organic waste in the form of sewage water and garbage into the Johor Straits.
Besides the pollution, what makes the clean-up more expensive are the geographical locations of the respective river mouths.
For instance, the estuary of Sungai Segget is located at the Johor Baru city centre, the southern gateway to the peninsula.
The river mouth of Sungai Skudai is at the newly-developed tourism destination, Danga Bay, where a marina is to be built.
This explains why the State Government is willing to spend big money to clean up the rivers as the cost to be incurred later would be much higher if the ecology of the rivers is adversely affected.
State Tourism and Environment Committee chairman Freddie Long told the New Straits Times that the construction of a centralised sewage treatment system was the key to cleaner rivers.
"It is not going to be a cheap project.
"However, if we do not proceed with it now, it will become even more expensive," he said.
According to the State Department of Environment, the installation of a centralised sewage treatment system at Sungai Skudai would cost RM500 million, while those for Sungai Segget and Sungai Tebrau would cost another RM500 million.
Long said the system involved the laying of sewage pipes linked to a central treatment plant.
Sewage water would be treated at the plant before it was discharged into the rivers.
He said the Natural Resources and Environment Ministry had approved the project, while the Economic Planning Unit had set aside allocations for it to be implemented under the Ninth Malaysia Plan.
"We have completed a study on the design of the system.
"We are conducting a hydraulic study on the project. When everything is completed, we will appoint three consultants for the project. Each will be in charge of one river," he said.
Long said the project would also involve urban land acquisition.
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Water reclamation technology in our hand---materials,technology etc
Third Newater Plant on Stream as Water Sector Opens Up
Even Dubai trust our technology
June 19 2004 ,Business Times
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Total Newater output of 45 mgd will exceed 10 per cent of SingaporeÂ’s daily water needs by 2006 - comfortably ahead of the expiry of SingaporeÂ’s 1961 water supply agreement with Malaysia, which ends by 2011.
The Seletar plant, designed and built by homegrown Hyflux, is the first here to use a locally-made ultra-fine 0.02 micron membrane that promises higher efficiency at reduced cost. The previous two Newater plants used imported membranes that were 0.1 micron thick, Hyflux CEO Olivia Lum said yesterday.
Ulu Pandan will be the first Newater plant to be awarded on a design, build, own and operate basis, contracted to supply water to PUB for 20 years.Hyflux secures multi-million deal with Dubai
fr http://www.hyflux.com/press_archive.html
October 9 2004 ,TODAY
A multi-million-dollar deal secured by local firm Hyflux has transformed SingaporeÂ’s efforts on economic engagement with the Middle East into a tangible plan of action.
The water treatment specialist company yesterday signed a deal worth more than US$400 million ($672 million). It will design, build and operate water and waste-water treatment plants in water-scarce Dubai in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), over the next three years.
We have land to build water reclamation or desalination plants,(have u been in Tuas or Changi Naval Base recently.tHe empty land in both locations are
big enough to build more than 2 airports.Take a bus fr Jurong interchange to Tuas to see .)
We have technology and material,ample of financing fr banks and educated
man power.There is no need to fight for water.
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When we are finally 100% self sufficient on our water supply in the future. The strategic balance will certainly shift greatly to our side. Most importantly,the Malaysian politicians will be unable to talk about one main agenda("potong water supply to Singapore") during their election campaigning!
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S$1000 million or one billion can solve all the water problem
It costs about S$200 m to $250m to build a desalination plant to supply
10 % of Sg's water demand.The price is keeping on dropping.So,one billion plus can say good bye to MY water.This is a long term picture.
What if the MY's tap closed?
The full capbacity of all Sg reservoirs is about 100 days of our demand.
If it is cut off,we have at least a short period of time complain to UN.
Though,LKY once told Dr M that we would advance if the taps is closed.
So no need to worry the tap is closed.We wont die. -
but we will eventually have to pay more.
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sorry,price in decending order:tap water, desalination water and the cheapest
water is NEWater.U hardly gather this info.Costing $200 million, it is being built by Hyflux, whose chief executive
My NOTE:78 cents is the lowest price.It will float with oil price.
Olivia Lum has become known as Singapore's 'Water Queen' for her talent in
seizing business opportunitiesto do with that most vital of commodities.....
It is one of the world's most energy-efficient desalination plants and will
sell water to the PUB at one of the lowest prices in the world for desalinated
water 78 cents a cubic metre.(My NOTE)
This is lower than the $1.17 to $1.40 a cubic metre which households
currently pay.
One of these is the membrane bioreactor technology for treating waste water
to produce Newater. The company behind this technology is Singaport Cleanseas,
whose shareholders are PSA Corp and four local shipyards.....
The pioneer listing, in 2001, was Hyflux, which is now building two
desalination plants in China and one in Dubai, as well as the one at Tuas, as
the good times flow in the water treatment business.
Even the rich and famous of the world trust Sg technologyHyflux secures multi-million deal with Dubai
October 9 2004 TODAY
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The water treatment specialist company yesterday signed a deal worth more than US$400 million ($672 million). It will design, build and operate water and waste-water treatment plants in water-scarce Dubai in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), over the next three years..........
Under the partnership, the two companies will set up a joint venture utility company in Dubai and undertake an initial US$400 million worth of projects for the real estate development projects of IstithmarÂ’s affiliate, Nakheel Corporation.
As the largest property developer in the Middle East, Nakheel is responsible for the worldÂ’s most ambitious man-made resort islands off Dubai, including The World and The Palm.
fr http://www.hyflux.com/press_archive.html
The rich and famous of the world will stay there!!
Do u want to buy a nation there?
http://guide.theemiratesnetwork.com/living/dubai/the_world_islands.php
http://guide.theemiratesnetwork.com/living/dubai/images/the_palm/palm_jumeirah.jpg -
Don't be stupid can anot lionnoisy?
Why drink pee when you can have h20??
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Don't be stupid also, enemy 1 airstrike can destroy your desalination plant , but 1 airstrike can never destroy reservoir!
[b]S$1000 million or one billion can solve all the water problem
It costs about S$200 m to $250m to build a desalination plant to supply
10 % of Sg's water demand.The price is keeping on dropping.So,one billion plus can say good bye to MY water.This is a long term picture.
What if the MY's tap closed?
The full capbacity of all Sg reservoirs is about 100 days of our demand.
If it is cut off,we have at least a short period of time complain to UN.
Though,LKY once told Dr M that we would advance if the taps is closed.
So no need to worry the tap is closed.We wont die.[/b]
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Don't be stupid again!!Originally posted by lionnoisy:NEWater makes Chance of Water conflict reduced
The rivers names sound familiar?Yes,some of our water come from there.
Cheers to water independent---with NEWater of course!!
Chance of water conflict might increase!
Why? Desalination plants in singapore just became more vulnerable!
From what i know , you can never ever make other people satisfied 1!
Terrorists just need to buy some powerful poison and some arsenic cyanide, or gas the desalination plant and flush it down their toilet bowl and just sabotage the desalination plant and your dead!! -
Don't be stupid also!
When they cut off the tap water!
They would have already anticipated us to invade and they would be ready for a fight ! -
It's stupid to worry about where your water comes from
I think you should be more worried about MINT
(Malaysia Institude of Nuclear Technology)
Malaysia already researching on Nuclear technology!
if want to kill , just need to use nuke!
no need to waste effort by sending migs over
Common sense goes , if i want to destroy an enemy , i would destroy him completely.
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u prefer Sg's water treated from urine or treated water from chemical,human waste polluated from MY?Read my first posting :
Water in north not easy to filterRM1b to clean up rivers in Johor
All the river names sound familiar fern!!Our water come from there..
Sim Bak Heng,New Strait Times
JOHOR BARU, June 5 2005
RM 1 billion. That is how much Johor needs to clean up the three most polluted rivers in the State.
Pos Malaysia The three rivers — Sungai Skudai, Sungai Tebrau and Sungai Segget — carry pollutants such as organic waste in the form of sewage water and garbage into the Johor Straits. ......
Whether NEWater plant or desalination plants are just accerlate the water cycle in a factory instead in nature.
Don't you worry water fr north also can be tampered with?Do you prefer protect water plants in our soil or protect a vast piece of land in the north.Once we
advance there may means war--a very dirty word!! -
They already have the animousity against us.Originally posted by lionnoisy:u prefer Sg's water treated from urine or treated water from chemical,human waste polluated from MY?Read my first posting :
Water in north not easy to filter
All the river names sound familiar fern!!Our water come from there..
Whether NEWater plant or desalination plants are just accerlate the water cycle in a factory instead in nature.
Don't you worry water fr north also can be tampered with?Do you prefer protect water plants in our soil or protect a vast piece of land in the north.Once we
advance there may means war--a very dirty word!!
Period. -
First time i see SmAP talking so cheemly
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They already have a reactor operational for so long...Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:It's stupid to worry about where your water comes from
I think you should be more worried about MINT
(Malaysia Institute of Nuclear Technology)
Malaysia already researching on Nuclear technology!
if want to kill , just need to use nuke!
no need to waste effort by sending migs over
Common sense goes , if i want to destroy an enemy , i would destroy him completely.
http://www.mint.gov.my/
Just visited the link. Thanks
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MINT Slogan
Nuclear Technology Propels the National Vision
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Just put some nuclear waste in water ....will do...
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into malaysia reservoir can work...Originally posted by 38�Ž:Just put some nuclear waste in water ....will do...
into singapore water cannot work... the micropore filters of the NEWater plant would filter out the uranian tetraflouride (aka nuclear waste) because the molecular size is too big..
in fact.. UF4 is bigger then NaCl, if NaCl (a major component of urine) can also kenna filtered out by newater micropore... the UF4 lagi no chance! -
Oh! they have the reactors.Do they have heavy water or enough Uranium
to make a bomb.Do we have to scamble?Silent recall of pilots?
MY has the right to do RD.But we have the right to keep and eye on them
and act, in diplomatic way and deterrence if situation warrants.
One NEWater plant can replace 20% of MY water
fr http://www.kepcorp.com/press/press.asp?RID=913&L=&Y=2004&Q=4
15-December-2004
Keppel Engineering wins contract to build Singapore's largest NEWater plant at Ulu Pandan......
The Ulu Pandan NEWater plant is expected to be operational by end 2006. When completed, the plant will be able to produce 116,000 m3/day of NEWater and 46,000m3/day of Industrial Water to meet the demand from the industrial and commercial sectors in the western and central regions of Singapore.
.............................................The first-year price is $0.30 per cubic metre for NEWater and $0.15 per cubic metre for Industrial Water.
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Earlier this year, KEPL completed the design and construction of a water treatment pilot plant for PUB to convert seawater and storm water to potable water utilising state-of-the-art desalination and water treatment technologies to produce potable water.
This plant alone can supply more than 10% of daily consumption,or replace
about 20% of MY imported water.The price selling to PUB is only 25%
of u are paying.
Note the pilot plant.It will bring us cheaper,faster water in the furure! -
No lah, the water from causeway pipeline will never go through NEWater plant filter... May suggest the MPs to purpose an urgent motion of Water fitering scheme
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those water goes to the fishes in singapore reservoir... when you start seeing dead fishes in singapore reservoir... i think alarms would rang all over singapore.Originally posted by 38�Ž:No lah, the water from causeway pipeline will never go through NEWater plant filter... May suggest the MPs to purpose an urgent motion of Water fitering scheme -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Yah, build and bomb you so you don't have to post anymore!!
Oh! they have the reactors.Do they have heavy water or enough Uranium
to make a bomb.Do we have to scamble?Silent recall of pilots?
MY has the right to do RD.But we have the right to keep and eye on them
and act, in diplomatic way and deterrence if situation warrants.
[b]One NEWater plant can replace 20% of MY water
fr http://www.kepcorp.com/press/press.asp?RID=913&L=&Y=2004&Q=4
This plant alone can supply more than 10% of daily consumption,or replace
about 20% of MY imported water.The price selling to PUB is only 25%
of u are paying.
Note the pilot plant.It will bring us cheaper,faster water in the furure!
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Just need to load 1 or 2 of it, fly with jet escorts of 10 SU-30 , and 10 MIG-29
and put inside the C-130 , drop it at the southern islands of singapore and the bomb will explode all the way to woodlands if a conflict arises -
Do they need air refuel?How many of planes can be air refulled ?Do all our satelite systems and radars are down?Do you know a jet in full speed will
consume 7 to 15 % of the fuel?They will run out of fuel if coming to Sg in full speed from few hundred km away.
Do u think we spent a sum equal to 1986's defence budget to buy 4 E2C EW for fun?
What do u think E2C are doing in a day?I think almost every hour
there is one flying over your head to pick up any unscheduled flights!!
U know what they will do if any appear in their upgraded color 12 inch screen.
Have they upgraded to Group 0 or 2?
This is the reason every nite I can sleep very well!! -
Drop 1 of it on our soil and you can forget about your planes already.Originally posted by lionnoisy:Do they need air refuel?How many of planes can be air refulled ?Do all our satelite systems and radars are down?Do you know a jet in full speed will
consume 7 to 15 % of the fuel?They will run out of fuel if coming to Sg in full speed from few hundred km away.
Do u think we spent a sum equal to 1986's defence budget to buy 4 E2C EW for fun?
What do u think E2C are doing in a day?I think almost every hour
there is one flying over your head to pick up any unscheduled flights!!
U know what they will do if any appear in their upgraded color 12 inch screen.
Have they upgraded to Group 0 or 2?
This is the reason every nite I can sleep very well!!
Pilots also need time to recall , even if got standby on base.
Just need to load a few on ASTROS and you are kapoot already.
no need to jam water supply and risk a battle with sg.
