9 men released aft plead guilty gang raped aged 10
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Msia? Is it?
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actually i see no issue not giving jail terms to the boys who were under 16 assuming the girl agreed. don't really see why it should be an offence for males to have sex with females under 16 and not vice versa.
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North Queensland.Originally posted by wonderamazement:Msia? Is it? -
Aborigines are nativesOriginally posted by WinnieThePooh:No.. That would be Natives.
Aborigines only apply to those particular aussies.
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But this thread is yet another lionnoisy's neverending tirade against Australia larOriginally posted by maurizio13:In Singapore, a citizen does not have any basic rights and the legal system is such that an accused is guilty until proven innocent.
I tink last they deported him back to SG thats why he so sore -
I think Gazelle is another deportee.Originally posted by laurence82:But this thread is yet another lionnoisy's neverending tirade against Australia lar
I tink last they deported him back to SG thats why he so sore
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2.In oz,the accused will be set free even he committed a very serious crimes.Originally posted by maurizio13:In Singapore, a citizen does not have any basic rights and the legal system is such that an accused is guilty until proven innocent.
Cool down mates.This is not a isolated case.
The judge is very experienced.
First,it is damn wrong for PP(Director of Public Prosecutions )of QUEENSLAND OF AUSTRALIA asked for light sentence.But Mr Shine(Queensland AG) admitted the appeal would be hampered by the fact the prosecutor in the case, Steve Carter, did not recommend jail.
2nd,The learned judge thought that the girl "probably agreed"to sex and just followed the request to give light sentences.
But the girlhas been diagnosed as "mildly intellectually impaired"
3rd,no body raised the alarm during the one month appeal period.
where are all the damn medias? u guys have told me and educated me that
AUSTRALIA IS A FREE AND DEMOCRATIC country.
Why nobody raise this issue during the appeal period?
Why PP or AG review all judges sentences and lodge appeal in the appeal period ?
Many things wrong in many places.
3.Mr Shine(QUEENSLAND Attorney-General Kerry Shine) has also ordered a review into sentences in all sexual assault cases in far north Queensland over the past two years, to ensure they were meeting community expectations.
this is rare to review all cases...
4.The girl was sexually abused in aged 7 and now in aged 10 again.
Her "mildly intellectually impaired" may help her to go through
all these hells...
The fact that Senior Welfare Officer being sacked and 2 suspended on FULL PAY
shows failures in OZ system
5.The mind set of The judge
She thinks there should be ''an alternative penalty is appropriate.''
This mean she will consider the cultures of Indigenous!!
No wonder she gave this kind of sentences.
Even Oz PM also jumped up....
She did not make a mistake.
The judge thinks she has to consider the cultures of Indigenous
before she gives sentences.
--USING INDIGENOUS JUSTICE INITIATIVES IN SENTENCING (PAPER GIVEN AT THE JUDGES CONFERENCE, PERTH 20-24 JANUARY 2007),Judge Sarah Bradley District Court Cairns Qld January 2007
Conclusion
37. Sentencing Indigenous offenders is never easy. There are times when the offending behaviour clearly warrants the imposition of severe and significant penalties. There are also times when a judge who has knowledge of a community, has information about the community view of the offending, the background to it and the full particulars of those involved may decide that an alternative penalty is appropriate. Determining which category of case is before you can be problematic and can often only be done with input from the Indigenous community itself.
Her Honour Judge Sarah Bradley, District Court of Queensland
since 25th of March 1999, Judge of the Childrens Court of Queensland.
source of the paper--theaustralian.news.com.au,11.12.2007
6.am i anti--Australia by sharing the news here?
..Why did QueenslandÂ’s Child Safety Depart-ment not report the sexual assault to police despite the girl contracting a sexually transmitted disease from the encounter? Why was it considered better that the girl be removed from foster care with a white family in Cairns and returned to Aurukun where she had been sexually assaulted from the age of six?
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The picture emerging from the gang rape is of a bureaucratic culture that accepts a lesser standard of rights and responsibilities for indigenous people on Cape York. The Australianhas little doubt that many people who have worked at QueenslandÂ’s Attorney-General or Health Departments think it is fairly common for indigenous girls of that age on remote communities to have that sort of sexual history. But whenever the system turns a blind eye, it sends a message that this behaviour is normal and condemns future gen-erations of girls to a similar fate.
Standard of justice,December 11, 2007 -
*Yawn*
What country was it? -
Gang raped by 5 juveniles at aged 7 and ''contracted syphilis in April 2002''.
Thanks to lenient judiciary of the Great Australia.
She was gang raped again by 9 men aged aged 10 and contracted ''sexually transmitted diseases.''No no need go to jail.Wat a democratic and free Australia.The worst is no one make a appeal during the one month appeal period!!
1.Answer:read the postings.Originally posted by Gedanken:*Yawn*
What country was it?
Tip:
2.What a poorest girl we heard and want to hit the judge when she said all these rubbish like a grandmom forgiving her grand children.But she is a Judge!!--the child had first contracted syphilis in April 2002 when she was aged seven and was raped by five juveniles in Aurukun, receiving severe genital injuries.
I look like anti--Australia.Pl read their own newspaper then make your comments here,mates
When sentencing the nine juveniles for the gang rape carried out last year, Judge Bradley said: "All of you have pleaded guilty to having sex with a 10-year-old girl and (one of the juveniles) has pleaded guilty to having sex with another young girl as well.
"All of you have to understand that you cannot have sex with a girl under 16.
"If you do, you are breaking the law, and if you are found out, then you will be brought to court and could end up in jail.
"I accept that the girl involved, with respect to all of these matters, was not forced, and that she probably agreed to have sex with all of you." -
lol suprise suprise it isnt malaysia ..Originally posted by dumbdumb!:let me guess, malaysia truly asia~
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Your posts are so painfully monotonous I tune out after the first few words.Originally posted by lionnoisy:1.Answer:read the postings.
What country was that again?
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ExactlyOriginally posted by maurizio13:In Singapore, a citizen does not have any basic rights and the legal system is such that an accused is guilty until proven innocent. -
All along I thought it was Singapore...Originally posted by borgkilla:lol suprise suprise it isnt malaysia ..
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lionnoisy..let me ask you this...if this had happened in Singapore and lets say that the girl was indian and the perpetrators were rich Chinese boys...would things be any different? Would a case even be filed if these boys turned out to be 'white horses'? You have no idea how many things are covered up by the Singapore Police Force and never make it to the news so don't talk like you're some arbiter of the 'great' Singapore justice system.
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For the sake of racial harmony, the ordinary Chinese will be dealt with harshly. As for white horses, I have my doubts.
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1.Yes.i cant rule out possibility of covering up.Originally posted by Demonight:lionnoisy..let me ask you this...if this had happened in Singapore and lets say that the girl was indian and the perpetrators were rich Chinese boys...would things be any different? Would a case even be filed if these boys turned out to be 'white horses'? You have no idea how many things are covered up by the Singapore Police Force and never make it to the news so don't talk like you're some arbiter of the 'great' Singapore justice system.
In the internet era,can we expose it ?
u can expose it from internet cafe in JB or KL etc in a week end trip.
Look for one ulu ulu cafe without CCTV etc.
2.But i am damn disappointed that all these happening in Oz..
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Australia is Singapore's model? What a load of BS.Originally posted by lionnoisy:Our model.. Switzerland is supposed to be Singapore's model (or did you forget the famous "Swiss standard of living"?) - only Singapore can't make chocolate or watches for nuts. -
u probably need drink few cups of ice water while u read all these rubbish.
DPP believe the girl aged 10 with "mildly intellectually impaired"gave consent to have sex with six teenage attackers and gave three others aged 17, 18 and 26??
Pl note that ''The child was gang-raped at the age of seven in the Cape York community of Aurukun in 2002, and was later put into foster care with a non-indigenous family in Cairns.
However, child safety officers in April 2006 returned her to Aurukun, where she was raped again at the age of 10.''
She is "mildly intellectually impaired".How can she consent to sex??
Tuesday December 11, 05:16 PM,2007
Gang-rape was an experiment: prosecutor...While Ms Clare has declined to comment on the gang-rape case, her office publicly released transcripts of the court proceedings.
They revealed that during the case, DPP legal officer Steve Carter described the incident - in which the girl contracted a sexually transmitted disease - as "consensual sex".
"To the extent I can't say it was consensual in the legal sense, but in the other - in the general sense, the non-legal sense, yes, it was," Mr Carter told the court.
"So, I then ask on that basis not to seek any periods of detention, not to seek any periods of custody, immediate custody."
Mr Carter said the girl and the boys and men had prearranged the sex and they had not forced themselves on the girl or threatened her.
"My submission in relation to this particular offence is the same that I make in relation to children of that age ... they're very naughty for doing what they're doing but it's really - in this case, it was a form of childish experimentation, rather than one child being prevailed upon by another," he said.
"Although she was very young, she knew what was going on and she had agreed to meet the children at this particular place and it was all by arrangement.
"I'd ask your Honour to take that into account."
Mr Carter also told the court such incidents were not out of character in small, remote communities.....
2.pl post here if u find court proceedings
3.Light sentence for sexually abuse----one months only......The total period of both sentences is to commence today. Of the total period, the sentence of 24 months, the sentence will be suspended after you have served one month commencing today.
--September 28, 2005,THE SUPREME COURT OF THE NORTHERN TERRITORY
SCC 20418849,
THE QUEEN and GJ (Sentence)
4.Aborigine child sex abuse is a culture...The report's authors said they had found incidents of child sex abuse in each of the 45 communities they visited as part of their inquiry.
One alarming finding was that young children were being exposed to pornography and imitating the sexual behaviour among themselves, they said.
The 316-report report found that children were being abused by both indigenous and non-indigenous adults.
Children as young as five were found to have contracted sexually-transmitted diseases.... -
i am going to vomite bloods....
Rape is ''naughty'' and ''childish experimentation''
'' consensual sex - well, it was - it was not forced sex,''
sexually penetrations by 9 men is really naughty.
''they're very naughty for doing what they're doing but it's really - in this case, it was a form of childish experimentation,''---DPP legal officer Steve Carter
Sentencing submissions of rape case.
December 11, 2007,
BELOW is an edit transcript of sentencing submissions in the Aurukun gang rape case.
DISTRICT COURT
CRIMINAL JURISDICTION
JUDGE BRADLEY,
Indictment No 146 of 2007
THE QUEEN
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*NAMES WITHHELD*....MR CARTER(DPP legal officer Steve Carter): Yes, they are brief. When *name withheld* was 13, he and a group of others took part in consensual sex - well, it was - it was not forced sex, upon the complainant child aged between 11 and 12 during the time period stated in the indictment. She attended the Aurukun Health Clinic with her mother complaining of a suspected boil on her bottom and an examination was noted and lesions were found around her private parts.
2.Rape is ''naughty'' and ''childish experimentation''!!
As a result of that, further inquires were made. It was - she also had a sexually transmitted infection, in common with test results which were later obtained from - in relation to *name withheld*. He admitted quite readily what had happened and stated that he and other children had engaged in this consensual sex and he was charged.
HER HONOUR: Were any of the others charged?
MR CURTIN: I'm not sure.
MR CARTER: No, I'm not either. It was something that - I'll find out for your Honour. No, they weren't. There were some cautions issued but that's all, your Honour. They were all young children.
HER HONOUR: Okay.
MR CARTER: And he was at the stage, only 13 as well. The reason a caution wasn't issued for *name withheld* is obviously because he's been - had contact with the Justice system prior to this
HER HONOUR: Yes.
MR CARTER: and it wasn't the appropriate vehicle. As I stated, she - it is possible that she contacted the sexually transmitted disease from this encounter. She(the victim) had two types of sexually transmitted disease, one of which was from similar - the same as that which was carried by *name withheld* but I wouldn't put too much weight on that, your Honour, in the circumstances, because she wasn't - he wasn't the only one she had sex with that day. It could've come from anyone that day. So, anyway, he admitted to everything that he did and an ex officio request was received in May 2006.
The reason why it wasn't dealt with earlier apart from these proceedings, the other proceedings, was because there was some difficulty - misunderstanding in relation to the certificate of readiness not being filed with the Court, and it's been rather fortuitous, in any event, because it's able to be dealt with now.
My submission in relation to this particular offence is the same that I make in relation to children of that age, of similar or the same age of that age, is to quote - well, they're very naughty for doing what they're doing but it's really - in this case, it was a form of childish experimentation, rather than one child being prevailed upon by another, although - as I said, although she was very young, she knew what was going on and she had agreed to meet the children at this particular place and it was all by arrangement, so - for that purpose.
I'd ask your Honour to take that into account and if this was standing alone, the Crown would not be asking anymore than for some form of supervisory order, form of probation, or some order of that - similar order to that, your Honour.
HER HONOUR: Yes....
LKY is damn right.He wants 1st class honour law graduate in government. -
Hey, that's a lot less than the rest of us need when we read your rubbish.Originally posted by lionnoisy:u probably need drink few cups of ice water while u read all these rubbish. -
Welcome to our world. Now you know what we feel like when we read your posts.Originally posted by lionnoisy:i am going to vomite bloods.... -
Actually we can look at it this way , such a big mistake became big news openly and the tirades against the judge has been very loud.
It is good because at least there are things in the system that need to be fixed and the media does not have to worry about political backlashes when shelling out the news to everyone .
Welcome to Freedom and Democracy. Hey it is not perfect but I think they are working to improve the system. -
1.I agree.Originally posted by fymk:Actually we can look at it this way , such a big mistake became big news openly and the tirades against the judge has been very loud.
It is good because at least there are things in the system that need to be fixed and the media does not have to worry about political backlashes when shelling out the news to everyone .
Welcome to Freedom and Democracy. Hey it is not perfect but I think they are working to improve the system.
Hope the system can improve faster before the poorest girl
gang raped for 3 rd time.
pl read my opening postings
''Gang raped by 5 juveniles at aged 7 and ''contracted syphilis in April 2002''.
Thanks to lenient judiciary of the Great Australia.
She was gang raped again by 9 men aged aged 10 and contracted ''sexually transmitted diseases. ''
2.read the mind set of the judge
-USING INDIGENOUS JUSTICE INITIATIVES IN SENTENCING (PAPER GIVEN AT THE JUDGES CONFERENCE, PERTH 20-24 JANUARY 2007),Judge Sarah Bradley District Court Cairns Qld January 2007 -
*Yawn* Reruns again? Lion must be a Channel 5 fan.
