[AFP] Singapore PM's salary stuns White House official
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Oh well, do we know whether this WHite House Official is what post? Many Officials you know....and definitely they will be quite happy to come here to run for government job but can they make it? Many times we have read that our system is envied by many others for its efficiency. The US? We have read much of their gossip and unsavoury comments too. He may want the job but he may not be qualified for the job.
Our government has been trained and mentored for their roles. They don't come out of nowhere. Such commitment needs to be rewarded too.
dear ice fire 5 level heaven.
The US are the Nos 1 economies in the world,nos 1 military power in the world. Has the best college in the world. would they be so if they are run by a bunch of 3 rd world political leaders? yes, even george bush are envy of the PAP. not just because they earn millions a year but more so because they write their own paycheck. -
When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself public property. -Thomas jefferson
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Compare the work load and responsibility on both governments. The U.S. government are facing a real daily threat for their lives e.g. assassination attempts, ours: criticism from magazines and newspaper. US responsibility to about 300 million populations compare to 4.5 million.
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true true.Originally posted by carrotsoup:Compare the work load and responsibility on both governments. The U.S. government are facing a real daily threat for their lives e.g. assassination attempts, ours: criticism from magazines and newspaper. US responsibility to about 300 million populations compare to 4.5 million.
If the US President is paid such super high salary I have nothing to say, he deserves it - becos the US President not only takes care of his own countries but also helping and care for many countries in the world. His is a/an international President position unlike our govt in Singapore. Put these people from ruling party to do the same job as the US President I don't think they can make it. They are obviously overpaid and still talks so much so desperate to find excuses to support the pay rise. What a shame! 
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Yep, instead of the lame benchmarking against CEOs of the private sector. They should benchmark against the world governing leaders. Comparing responsibility with salaries, the US counterparts looks like cheap bangala labours.
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Thanks everyone for your great comments! It's nice to hear your thoughts... now it's time for my other perspective:-Originally posted by fire & ice:Oh well, do we know whether this WHite House Official is what post? Many Officials you know....and definitely they will be quite happy to come here to run for government job but can they make it? Many times we have read that our system is envied by many others for its efficiency. The US? We have read much of their gossip and unsavoury comments too. He may want the job but he may not be qualified for the job.
Our government has been trained and mentored for their roles. They don't come out of nowhere. Such commitment needs to be rewarded too.
ok, the sgp govt is one unique entity - sgp inc. - and its citizens are one unique lot and thus it's govt has gathered its roots deep and moulded its peolpe to think the way the govt prefers....
our govt won't stand for any gossip or stain of repute. but the presidents (most power one, as compared to us, it should be the prime minister most powerful) of many countries are not without blame... therefore if any other officals think they can run our govt, they must think twice....
i seriously think that our govt people no smoke, no drink, no party, no fling, no girls, no affairs, no gamble, no drugs, no movies, no shopping, no nothing..... and their spouses also the same....
don't you all just pity them, no lives???
that's why i said, our govt has such high standards of conduct and they need to be paid to remember to stay high of morals... maybe....
seriously in our country of complainers, if any of our govt have juicy gossips available publicly, i think our citizens won't accept it. the US? ah well, you can see Mrs Clinton running for president right?? here? well, you tell me. -
I love this! So awe and inspiring for a public servant....Originally posted by (human):When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself public property. -Thomas jefferson -
I apologize but I do not understand your comment here. If you would to elaborate, then maybe I will get a better view of what you are trying to tell me. Thanks.Originally posted by meqwerty:if by efficiency, u mean being paid the least possible for the doing a particular job, then we're probably one of the most efficient 1st world countries. and if u (in general), being at the brunt of it is willing to take that, why should ur employers make it otherwise. u pay peanuts, u get monkeys. this theory applies throughout all the levels of society. it is not to say, that u'll definitely get a good deal if u pay more. but the inverse is definitely true.
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Wha....? hahaha.. our govt people aren't as "clean" as you think...
In the world of Singapore highflyers, it's common (but not a must) to have mistresses.. the more money you have, the more ways you have at your disposal to conceal a secret.. I hardly think politicians are an exception... -
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Not as bad as ministers writing their own pay cheques amounting to millions giving some excuses like CEOs in private sector are paid much more.
SINGAPORE: Police are investigating a theft in Pasir Ris that took place in broad daylight - vandals have taken, of all things, metal railings.
Support rails on an access path, specially built for the elderly and disabled, no longer exist at Pasir Ris Drive 6.
It is the same at Drive 1 also.
Pasir Ris-Punggol Town Council says it would take at least three weeks to replace the railings, at a cost of S$20,000.
Some residents said they actually saw the suspected vandals at work, but did not realise they were witnessing a crime.
"I saw them sawing the railings around 3pm the day before. But I thought they were contractors. There were three workers, and another two men who looked like they were supervisors," says Pasir Ris resident Eliza Khong. - CNA/yy
Time is bad????
MPs are not permitted to vote against such Ministers' self-rewards.
If caught this guy will be charged in court and probably go to jail for more than 6 months but what will CPIB Chief or the chief justice do to such taking of taxpayers' monies without voting or approval by anyone. -
Ah ha.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Singapore PM's salary stuns White House official
Tue Apr 10, 6:50 PM ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) - A senior White House official on Tuesday admitted he was floored by the news that Singapore's prime minister earned five times more than US
President George W. Bush.
"I'm going to emigrate and run for office in Singapore," the official said on condition he be identified only as "a senior administration official who sits in disbelief after reading that story."
On Monday, the Singapore government had announced a fresh 25.5 percent pay hike for Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, boosting his salary to 2.05 million dollars per year.
Bush gets paid 400,000 dollars per year for doing his job, according to the White House.
Combined with personal investment income, he and his wife Laura reported 618,694 dollars in taxable income in the 2005 fiscal year. They had to pay 187,768 dollars in federal taxes.
But maybe Bush shouldn't feel so bad. The Singaporean's paycheck is eight times fatter than Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's.
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Now look and see what we have done, sown seeds to get others to leave their country and work for another country. Bravo. Absolutely sweet.
And my teacher was telling me that bush with his investment CONFIRM + CHOP earn more then LHL. -
Originally posted by Xephone_xenon:
Investment is he earn himself. Plus Bush does pay taxes right?
Ah ha.
And my teacher was telling me that bush with his investment CONFIRM + CHOP earn more then LHL. -
We have to pay to prevent corruption. You know.
It's like the robber saying you have to pay me, if not I will rob you. -
.... got hidden meaning =x , what to do, look at the bright side of stuff ~ ~"Originally posted by carrotsoup:We have to pay to prevent corruption. You know.
It's like the robber saying you have to pay me, if not I will rob you. -
Sorry about the hidden meaning, you know we are all Singaporeans, must be more discrete, so must say things more carefully and quietly.
YOU F#$&ING THIEVES!!! THIS IS BROAD DAY LIGHT ROBBERY!!!! -
Malaysia copy SG again, they also increasing pay for civil servants, and increasing it just before elections!?
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Ha! That's why Malaysia is learning from us! Imitation is the best form of flattery (sp)! What works, REALLY works!!!Originally posted by Hitler II:Malaysia copy SG again, they also increasing pay for civil servants, and increasing it just before elections!? -
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if you think about it...in terms of economics...
opportunity cost- if a minister can earn millions as a surgeon or businessman or CEO, and he is very talented, if Singapore govt. doesnt pay him highly, will he become a minister???
granted, there are some who would not earn millions if they work in private sector. but we do need these high salaries to attract the top talent to form the nucleus of the parliament.
also, they will not succumb to bribery with their high salary. do u think they want to risk being kicked out of the gravy train just for a a few hundred thousand extra...which is much less than they are earning now as minster....
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And if he doesn't become a minister, can he earns millions as a surgeon or businessman or CEO? The skillset of these occupations are completely different, because you have the talent to come out with plans to wipe out dengue fever, will that give you the skill to perform demanding operations on a person's brain? Or help you sell more mp3 players than Apple? LSL had a mathematical degree, if he didn't become the PM could he had become a mathematical prof earning millions? Or a CEO?Originally posted by unclebutcher:if you think about it...in terms of economics...
opportunity cost- if a minister can earn millions as a surgeon or businessman or CEO, and he is very talented, if Singapore govt. doesnt pay him highly, will he become a minister???
granted, there are some who would not earn millions if they work in private sector. but we do need these high salaries to attract the top talent to form the nucleus of the parliament.
Plus don't forget that by becoming a politician you are paid not just by cash, but you also get your reward of power and respect.Originally posted by unclebutcher: also, they will not succumb to bribery with their high salary. do u think they want to risk being kicked out of the gravy train just for a a few hundred thousand extra...which is much less than they are earning now as minster....
So, if they raise their wages does that mean that they will not be corrupt? Will not help their family members or friends get out of trouble? Will not give projects to them? Can you ensure that?
what do you think will happen if, say, Dr m/ sby becomes singapore minister???
One thing though, if increasing the salary of the White House by 5 times will give USA better leaders then the monkeys there right now I would be glad to support that wage increase. -
Actually, in some countries such as US or even Thailand (look at Thaksin), they become rich first before they become politicians. So they wouldn't even need the high salaries in the first place. However, in Singapore it seems to be the other way round. Civil service and public office become the route to riches.Originally posted by unclebutcher:if you think about it...in terms of economics...
opportunity cost- if a minister can earn millions as a surgeon or businessman or CEO, and he is very talented, if Singapore govt. doesnt pay him highly, will he become a minister???
granted, there are some who would not earn millions if they work in private sector. but we do need these high salaries to attract the top talent to form the nucleus of the parliament.
also, they will not succumb to bribery with their high salary. do u think they want to risk being kicked out of the gravy train just for a a few hundred thousand extra...which is much less than they are earning now as minster....
what do you think will happen if, say, Dr m/ sby becomes singapore minister???
Talking about civil service in terms of monetary opportunity costs undermines the intrinsic values of honour and integrity that have underpinned public office since the classical times. Is that the kind of politicians we want to breed? The kind that thinks only in terms of "what is there in it for me?" -
Let's put it in a geographical way.Originally posted by nonameguy:Originally posted by unclebutcher:
if you think about it...in terms of economics...
opportunity cost- if a minister can earn millions as a surgeon or businessman or CEO, and he is very talented, if Singapore govt. doesnt pay him highly, will he become a minister???
granted, there are some who would not earn millions if they work in private sector. but we do need these high salaries to attract the top talent to form the nucleus of the parliament. .
President BUSH controlled 1 of the most powerful nation in the world who can declare war at any given country or sent aid to any given nation.
MP Lee controlled Singapore, a really tiny island,earned 5 times more than President BUSH. 8 Times paycheck more than Japanese prime minister.
If the Top leader in the world (United States) do not earn so much,
how come our Leader is earning so much from a small nation?
How do our minister approve of such salaries in the first place?
They crowned themselves with money?????? (Just curious to know how, correct me if I am wrong)
The Amercians also tried to draw top talents so does our nation.
We should pay people at a competitive rate and not at an inflated rate.
If our country's leaders or talents serve Singapore just because we offered an outrageous pay rate. I say we are desperate to sell ourselves to talents.
And the so-called talent we got come here because of money, if 1 day, Singapore comes into recession and our country failed to pay them highly. These talents will leave because of money.
(Correct me if I am wrong)