It's frankly a huge joke.Originally posted by spinsugar:LOL... and they wonder why so many Singaporeans lack national pride.ah-hyuck
Anyway they say it as if our Ministers are top talent who're always in danger of being poached by big companies... now, name me a minister has ever been successfully poached by a big company? (not GLC)![]()
Hey, as employees of an MNC, you are required to work hard to justify your salary you know.Originally posted by spinsugar:LOL... and they wonder why so many Singaporeans lack national pride.ah-hyuck
Anyway they say it as if our Ministers are top talent who're always in danger of being poached by big companies... now, name me a minister has ever been successfully poached by a big company? (not GLC)![]()
Originally posted by mistyblue:they are the god, the judge, the satan and the executioner.
we are at their mercy.
so do you think they require the PM of Singapore to do the same?Originally posted by charlize:Hey, as employees of an MNC, you are required to work hard to justify your salary you know.
after so much commotion about the pay rise. that dpm talks about what - peace!!!! he just another crap!! Robotic - i remember someone once told me the ruling party is very good in instilling fear in people. That is the way they control. Is Singapore a communist country?Originally posted by coolgeek84:Yes this whole pay raise thing is ridiculous. But well. They are the boss and we are the slaves. I know in India (and a LOT more other countries), people won't rest like this. There will be riots, suicide demonstrations and so on. Of course I am not in anyway supporting those methods. But things like peaceful protests or hunger strikes or any kind of strikes are also not given any chance in this country.
Face the truth.. Most of the people's life here is totally robotic.. You do what u r told and u r told what to do.
I learned long time ago that democracy meant: "For the people, by the people, of the people"
I think the definition changed over time ^^ You have to replace the word people with ministers.![]()
I like the way you put it. AgreeOriginally posted by crimson soldier:democracy in chinese - MING ZU
we are the MING
they are the ZU![]()
Errr...did you by chance miss the part where the SM said we cannot afford 'Revolving door' policy?Originally posted by gerrykoh:Also limit the no. of terms they can serve eg US president cannot go more than 2 terms.
You mean recovered from Durai?Originally posted by ceecookie:The pay hike might have came from corruption who knows?![]()
Riots and demonstration in Singapore? You won't have a chance to witness let alone participate it in your life time here.Originally posted by coolgeek84:Yes this whole pay raise thing is ridiculous. But well. They are the boss and we are the slaves. I know in India (and a LOT more other countries), people won't rest like this. There will be riots, suicide demonstrations and so on. Of course I am not in anyway supporting those methods. But things like peaceful protests or hunger strikes or any kind of strikes are also not given any chance in this country.
Face the truth.. Most of the people's life here is totally robotic.. You do what u r told and u r told what to do.
I learned long time ago that democracy meant: "For the people, by the people, of the people"
I think the definition changed over time ^^ You have to replace the word people with ministers.![]()
We can't compare...as the population of the US and Singapore are totally different...maybe running a big country will pose much domestic problem...Originally posted by the Bear:look at the mess the US is in.. are they really "talents" we want?
or are they the same types of sycophants we have here, only they're paid less over there
Easier to manipulate and bully tooOriginally posted by aimtommy:We can't compare...as the population of the US and Singapore are totally different...maybe running a big country will pose much domestic problem...
the lesser the people, the easier to control...
I think he ran off to another country already.Originally posted by FocusPoint:You mean recovered from Durai?![]()
Oh I'm pretty sure he won't end up teaching in Harvard like another distinguished exile.Originally posted by charlize:I think he ran off to another country already.
Apparently the court granted him permission to go on a holiday after his trial.
that MM ever said Singapore is small so is easily managed. Send him to big country and see how he will manage! Singaporeans are all so tamed by the ruling party, so we don't have riot. The local press is pro govt so don't believe all the things the newsapapers publish. Somehow, we can tell whether it is propanda.Originally posted by FocusPoint:Easier to manipulate and bully too![]()
I was reading a book and this word jumped out of the page, a befitting word to describe our fear of our government.Originally posted by rane:after so much commotion about the pay rise. that dpm talks about what - peace!!!! he just another crap!! Robotic - i remember someone once told me the ruling party is very good in instilling fear in people. That is the way they control. Is Singapore a communist country?
Fear is only what you allow to come into your head.Originally posted by MamaRos:I was reading a book and this word jumped out of the page, a befitting word to describe our fear of our government.
Fear of REPRISALS
Admit it, we all fear that! Not just to ourselves but also to our loved ones.
are you going to feed the rioters?Originally posted by rane:that MM ever said Singapore is small so is easily managed. Send him to big country and see how he will manage! Singaporeans are all so tamed by the ruling party, so we don't have riot. The local press is pro govt so don't believe all the things the newsapapers publish. Somehow, we can tell whether it is propanda.
Look at the Nazi rule in Germany during World War 2. Look at Stalin.Originally posted by rane:after so much commotion about the pay rise. that dpm talks about what - peace!!!! he just another crap!! Robotic - i remember someone once told me the ruling party is very good in instilling fear in people. That is the way they control. Is Singapore a communist country?
Originally posted by fire & ice:Oh well, do we know whether this WHite House Official is what post? Many Officials you know....and definitely they will be quite happy to come here to run for government job but can they make it? Many times we have read that our system is envied by many others for its efficiency. The US? We have read much of their gossip and unsavoury comments too. He may want the job but he may not be qualified for the job.
Our government has been trained and mentored for their roles. They don't come out of nowhere. Such commitment needs to be rewarded too.
if by efficiency, u mean being paid the least possible for the doing a particular job, then we're probably one of the most efficient 1st world countries. and if u (in general), being at the brunt of it is willing to take that, why should ur employers make it otherwise. u pay peanuts, u get monkeys. this theory applies throughout all the levels of society. it is not to say, that u'll definitely get a good deal if u pay more. but the inverse is definitely true.Originally posted by fire & ice:Oh well, do we know whether this WHite House Official is what post? Many Officials you know....and definitely they will be quite happy to come here to run for government job but can they make it? Many times we have read that our system is envied by many others for its efficiency. The US? We have read much of their gossip and unsavoury comments too. He may want the job but he may not be qualified for the job.
Our government has been trained and mentored for their roles. They don't come out of nowhere. Such commitment needs to be rewarded too.